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After listening to him, I noticed that in this appeal there is an ambiguity regarding Strelkov.
“No one merges anyone, does not rent. All this is crazy nonsense. Another nonsense that someone invents and merges on us. We were merged with you when Strelkov left here. And now it's gone. Kononov and Zakharchenko do not merge us ... "

For me, everything was clear when Strelkov left - it was a drain. But Kononov and Zakharchenko do not leave and do not merge. Everything.

But I was convinced that for the Zastrelkovskaya patriotism the phrase would have the opposite meaning.
Actually, here is a capacious statement of one of their representatives right under the video:

Vladimir Braga:“No, you guys are out of your mind? Givi did not say anything against Strelkov. On the contrary, he repeated what Strelkov had said earlier. At the very beginning, they tried to drain the protest from Moscow, and for this they removed Strelkov as the most intractable. But then it turned out that he was not the only ideological one and it would not be possible to stop the protest even from Moscow. Then they decided to control the protest in order to prevent it from spreading to Russia and all of Ukraine. Do we still remember how we stopped the troops near Mariupol? And then Strelkov was gone.”

That is, Vladimir Braga tells us that Novorossia was drained by some forces from Moscow, who left Strelkov, and Givi is now confirming this.

That's why I wasn't particularly happy about this video from Givi, knowing that the patriot at least had a stake on his head.

But then fate in the person of Igor Girkin again gave us a surprise:

Thanks for the tip comrade nousaction . I stumbled upon this news in his article: "" Strelkov carried out the order of the "fifth column" from Moscow and surrendered command." Curtain!"

Kotych-Girkin-Strelkov: "O! I've been waiting for this for a long time ... Gandon in Givi still hatched ... Well, yes, that's right. With me, he never advanced higher than a second lieutenant, if only ... And here is UNDER-COOL-KOL-KOVNIK! These things need to be done…”

What can I say, the Commander-in-Chief of the antiques forum Kotych himself understood Givi's statement as clearly as I did. There really is nothing to comment on.

What about patriotism?
And patriotism is in flight. But how many times did the Zastrelkovites tell me that they would believe that Strelkov was a traitor only when Givi and Motorola announced this.

And Givi? Givi is a good guy! This heroic fighter of Donbass, he loves his home, his commanders, his work... And he will fight for him to the end.

Well, it is worth noting that Givi never changes his word:

The commander of the Somali battalion, Mikhail Tolstykh, was killed early this morning in Donetsk in his office by an aimed shot from a (presumably) Shmel RPO (a portable rocket-propelled flamethrower with a thermobaric projectile). The murder was clearly well planned and carefully carried out - the killers fled the crime scene, without meeting the slightest resistance. Circumstances directly point to the presence of accomplices directly in the environment of M. Tolstykh and/or at the attacked object, since the killers fired at the very moment of his physical presence inside.

The facility's defenses were extremely poorly planned - the windows were not even protected by external mesh or bars (which would have seriously weakened the effect of the explosion), not to mention internal protective equipment such as sandbags, etc. The windows themselves overlooked the outer courtyard and were located on a floor accessible to shelling from the surrounding area over the fence. Everything suggests that he did not expect an attack on himself right in Givi's office - which greatly facilitated the task of the attackers.

I see only two main versions. The first one is official (the DRG is coming out), the second one is internal squabbles in the “corps” and / or local power-criminal structures (also possible, given the general atmosphere in this “regular army” and the fact that in Donetsk it is difficult to determine where the power is, and where is the crime - they have long merged in ecstasy). The first, after all, looks preferable in my eyes.

Political reasons are unlikely - Givi did not claim any independent political roles, did not make loud statements, publicly got along with Zakharchenko, etc.

The assassination will inevitably further aggravate the situation at the front and will just as inevitably be used to escalate tension and mutual accusations on both sides.

My personal assessment of Mikhail Tolstykh has not changed, however, in connection with his death in office, I believe it is incorrect to replicate it further, because whatever he was, Tolstykh was one of the first volunteers in Slavyansk. And, of course, I'm not happy about his death, despite all the friction (in absentia).

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In Donetsk, terrorists blew up the commander of the "Somalia" unit

Early in the morning on Wednesday, February 8, in Donetsk, as a result of a terrorist attack, the commander of the Somalia unit, Mikhail Tolstykh (call sign Givi), was killed. This was reported in the operational command of the proclaimed Donetsk people's republic(DNR).

Tolstykh died in an explosion in his office, they write "News Donetsk Republic". According to one of the former leaders of the DPR, Igor Strelkov, a shot from a Shmel grenade launcher was fired at the room in which Tolstykh was located. There are, however, other versions.

The representative of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR called the murder of Tolstoy “a continuation of the terrorist war launched by the Kyiv authorities against the inhabitants of Donbass.” And according to the prosecutor’s office of the DPR, “Ukrainian special services are behind the attacks, which are making efforts to destabilize the situation in the republic. The direct executors are sabotage and reconnaissance groups.”

Ukrainian saboteurs have been hunting the commanders of the military units of the DPR and LPR, the first wave of militias, for a long time. A few days ago, on February 4, one of these groups in Luhansk killed the head of the People's Militia of the LPR, Colonel Oleg Anashchenko - he was blown up in his own car. A day later, as a result of a special operation, the alleged killer of the colonel was detained. It turned out to be a major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), who immediately confessed to organizing and executing the murder of Anashchenko. But his accomplices managed to escape.

Earlier, on October 16, 2016, another militia commander was killed by a sabotage group, who, like Mikhail Tolstykh, participated in the battles for the Donetsk airport - Arsen Pavlov (call sign "Motorola"). He was blown up in the elevator of the nine-story building in which he lived in Donetsk. On November 12, the Ministry of State Security of the DPR announced the capture of members of the group that claimed responsibility for the murder of Motorola. In Donetsk, they said that the nationalists maintained contacts with the staff of the Security Service of Ukraine and carried out the tasks of the Ukrainian special services.

The effectiveness of Ukrainian saboteurs, apparently, is explained by the fact that they are backed by US intelligence agencies. Eduard Basurin, deputy commander of the corps of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, warned about this back in November 2015. “I want to draw attention to the information received from our sources in Ukraine about the order to train special sabotage groups from among the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region under the guidance of US instructors to destabilize the situation inside the republic, followed by accusations of terrorist actions by the forces of the DPR,” he said. then Basurin.

As recent events show, the program of "sabotage" American assistance to Ukraine has begun to bear fruit. And, apparently, requires the adoption of response systemic measures.

What is behind the murder of the Somali commander, why do Ukrainian saboteurs manage to terrorize the Donbass?

Pavel Salin, director of the Center for Political Science Research at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation, believes that the purpose of the assassination attempt on Givi is to provoke the republics of Donbass into retaliatory actions.

The Ukrainian trace should be considered as the priority version. This fits into the logic of the development of events in recent weeks. Obviously, Ukraine is behind the recent escalation of violence in the Donbass, because it is Kyiv, unlike the DPR and LPR, who benefits from this.

"SP": - Why?

Ukrainians need to keep the topic of conflict on the world agenda. The Kyiv authorities have great fears that everyone will forget about them, they will be forced out by US-Russian relations, the situation in the Middle East, and the terrorist threat. Therefore, Kyiv is trying by all means to enlist the support of the West, which put serious pressure on it and demanded to extinguish the escalation in the Donbass.

But how to do it? It is possible, for example, to provoke the opposite side into retaliatory actions, in order to later say that it was not Kyiv that launched the offensive, but representatives of the Donbass.

"SP": - Do the Ukrainian DRGs really have the ability to eliminate almost any militia commander?

There is nothing unrealistic about this. After all, there is no clear boundary and division, everything is mixed. Just as a fairly large number of people who are dissatisfied with the authorities live on the territory of Ukraine, there are people in the Donbass who are not satisfied with what has been happening in the region for the past three years. You can call them sympathizers with Kyiv. Among them you can find both performers of such acts and support. So there are all conditions for such acts.

"SP": - What will be the consequences of the murder of Givi?

This question remains open. If there are consequences, then those who organized this action have achieved their goal. I believe that the main purpose of the assassination attempt was not to settle personal scores, but a provocation in order to restart the flywheel of violence in the region. Therefore, the main task of the authorities of the republics now is to restrain the militias and those who acutely perceived the death of Givi from drastic actions. From a strategic point of view, the response will not have a very good effect on the positions of the DPR and LPR

"SP": - And how will this event affect "Minsk-2"?

- "Minsk" as it was frozen two years ago, and stands still. And it is unlikely that something can move him in one direction or another, even such an event as the murder of Givi.

Famous journalist and blogger Maxim Ravreba

The fact that Givi was killed by the Ukrainian DRG is very revealing. This is an attempt to create public opinion. But the main question is different. If Givi eliminated the Ukrainian DRG in his own office, then they can plant an explosive device even in the location of the Somali battalion. Accordingly, Ukrainian DRGs own Donetsk. Ukrainian DRG destroyed Motorola, destroyed Batman, now Givi. You know, after they killed Motorola, I had no doubt that Givi would be next.

"SP": - Why?

Recently, Givi was already wounded. He advanced under Avdiivka with his unit, but they did not even reach the front line when they were covered by Ukrainian artillery. This suggests that the Ukrainians had the coordinates of Givi's movement. Everything is very sad. There is a purge of iconic commanders of the militia of the first conscription of the Russian spring of 2014.

"SP": - After the death of Motorola, a version arose that commercial interests were involved in the case ...

Motorola could not manage commercial processes in the Donbass, because it was a stranger. And among the residents of Donbass, whom I know very well, the imperative “friend or foe” is developed to the limit. Motorola was loved, appreciated, helped, but he could not get deeply into someone's commercial disassembly. Especially since I know very well that he did not.

The same can be said about Givi. He was a simple, open, devoid of cunning guy. In what commercial affairs could he be involved? First of all, they usually talk about smuggling and coal trade. But Givi was unlikely to do this, he simply did not know how to do it.

"SP": - Why, in your opinion, is such a purge of iconic militia leaders needed?

Givi was dangerous as a media person. From him, as well as from Motorola, in 2014-2015, with the help of the media, they made a TV hero. Serious fighters still wear masks and don't try to pose, because war is about killing, sacrifice and revenge. They still don't show up, and they're doing it right. But Givi and Motorola became folk heroes. They were too bright to be kept alive after the concept was flipped 180 degrees.

"SP": - In what sense?

Initially, it was about creating Novorossiya, a huge territory in the South-East of Ukraine, then this project was quietly buried, and now it was about the fact that the DPR and LPR are returning to Ukraine. The Givi and Motorola militia were the symbols of Novorossiya. Symbols of the very Russian spring. Now it looks like the concept has changed...

We are talking about the need to carry out "Minsk-2", which is designed in such a way that it is impossible to fulfill it.

Original 08.02.2017, 11:10

In Donetsk, terrorists blew up the commander of the "Somalia" unit

Early in the morning on Wednesday, February 8, in Donetsk, as a result of a terrorist attack, he was killed, commander of the "Somalia" unit Mikhail Tolstykh(call sign "Givi"). This was reported in the operational command of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR).

Tolstykh died in an explosion in his office, News of the Donetsk Republic writes. According to one of the former leaders of the DPR Igor Strelkov, in the room in which Tolstykh was located, a shot was fired from a Bumblebee grenade launcher (more precisely, from the flamethrower "Bumblebee" - ed.). There are, however, other versions.

Ukrainian saboteurs have been hunting the commanders of the military units of the DPR and LPR, the first wave of militias, for a long time. A few days ago, on February 4, one of these groups in Luhansk was killed Head of the Department of the People's Militia of the LPR, Colonel Oleg Anashchenko- he was blown up in his own car. A day later, as a result of a special operation, the alleged killer of the colonel was detained. It turned out to be a major of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), who immediately confessed to organizing and executing the murder of Anashchenko. But his accomplices managed to escape.

Earlier, on October 16, 2016, another militia commander was killed by a sabotage group, who, like Mikhail Tolstykh, participated in the battles for the Donetsk airport - Arsen Pavlov(call sign "Motorola"). He was blown up in the elevator of the nine-story building in which he lived in Donetsk. On November 12, the Ministry of State Security of the DPR announced the capture of members of the group that claimed responsibility for the murder of Motorola. In Donetsk, they said that the nationalists maintained contacts with the staff of the Security Service of Ukraine and carried out the tasks of the Ukrainian special services.

The effectiveness of Ukrainian saboteurs, apparently, is explained by the fact that they are backed by US intelligence agencies. I warned about this back in November 2015. Deputy Corps Commander of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR Eduard Basurin. “I want to draw attention to the information received from our sources in Ukraine about the order to train special sabotage groups from among the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the Yavoriv training ground in the Lviv region under the guidance of US instructors to destabilize the situation inside the republic, followed by accusations of terrorist actions by the forces of the DPR,” he said. then Basurin.

As recent events show, the program of "sabotage" American assistance to Ukraine has begun to bear fruit. And, apparently, requires the adoption of response systemic measures.

What is behind the murder of the Somali commander, why do Ukrainian saboteurs manage to terrorize the Donbass?

Director of the Center for Political Studies of the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation Pavel Salin believes that the purpose of the assassination attempt on Givi is to provoke the republics of Donbass into retaliatory actions.

- Why?

- Do the Ukrainian DRGs really have the ability to eliminate almost any militia commander?

- What will be the consequences of killing Givi?

- And how will this event affect Minsk-2?

- "Minsk" as it was frozen two years ago, and stands still. And it is unlikely that something can move him in one direction or another, even such an event as the murder of Givi.

Donetsk resident Oleg Izmailov:

To say that Donetsk is in shock is to say nothing. In fact, we have not yet recovered from the shock caused by the death of another hero of the DPR, Arseniy Pavlov, Motorola. And then a new blow - they blow up Givi, Mikhail Tolstykh in his office. The biggest disappointment is in the services involved in the security of the commanders of the DPR army and key figures of the republic. How could this be allowed to happen?

When Pavlov died in an elevator, they said that his security system was poorly built, that if he had lived in a unit, and not in a private apartment, he could have been saved. So what? Givi is killed in his office, in his unit. The audacity of the perpetrator of the murder is indicative. Like, you won’t hide from us anywhere. It's clear. How clear that the murder was planned for more than one day, not one month, and no one could figure it out.

Naturally, rumors spread around Donetsk, assumptions, they say, it was not without bribery of one of their own, someone who had direct access to the founder of the Somalia brigade. “Betrayal” is the word that crawls like a black snake today in the conversations of Donetsk residents. And this, of course, does not have a very good effect on our psyche and moods. It is clear that this terrorist attack, like all terrorist attacks, is senseless and will not reach the final goal. There is a war going on, and in war everyone is ready to die. But still, I would like to see better guards for leaders, commanders, and ordinary residents.

Fired from a flamethrower Givi's office

Later, he was accused of organizing the murder of the Somali commander. “What else can they [in the DPR] say? What are they each other, excuse me, wet in the toilet? It’s clear that they need to blame someone, ”Avakov’s adviser told RBC.

Former tanker

How told in one of the interviews, 36-year-old Tolstykh (born in Ilovaisk, Donetsk region), he served as a tank commander in the Ukrainian army, where he took the call sign Givi in honor of his Georgian great-grandfather. Then Tolstykh worked as an industrial climber and driver at a rope factory.

With the outbreak of hostilities in the Donbass, he fought on the side of the forces of the self-proclaimed DPR near Slavyansk and was a member of the group of Igor Strelkov. But Tolstoy and his battalion became famous during the battles for the new terminal of the Donetsk airport. During many days of fighting, the Tolstoy detachment managed to occupy the ruins of the building, which was defended by the Ukrainian army. In addition, the Tolstoy detachment fought near Ilovaisk, where he participated in the encirclement of the Ukrainian group. In recent battles near Avdiivka, he was wounded.

Version of the Ukrainian trace

The leaders of the self-proclaimed republics are not yet in a hurry to comment on the death of the Tolstoys. One of the leaders of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, did not answer calls from RBC. According to the representative of the LPR in the Minsk negotiating group, Vladislav Deinego, he does not yet have any information about possible versions. Refused to comment on RBC and the former head of the DPR Alexander Boroday.

The State Duma believes that the Ukrainian side is behind the death of Tolstoy. “This fits into the general trend of Ukraine preparing an offensive in the Donbass,” Konstantin Zatulin, First Deputy Chairman of the Committee on CIS Affairs, United Russia, told RBC. He recalls that “literally the other day, the head of the LPR police was killed, Ukraine continues to pull equipment and forces to Avdiivka and shell Donetsk.” At the same time, Zatulin believes that Kyiv has not made a final decision on the offensive and they continue to watch the West's reaction to their actions.

A former DPR officer told RBC that Givi was always loyal to the authorities and his death could not be connected with a rebellion against the leadership of the unrecognized republic or Russian curators. On the other hand, in his opinion, although theoretically a Ukrainian sabotage group could have committed a murder using internal agents, Tolstykh is not a commander whose assassination will change the situation at the front. His media fame, on a par with Motorola, did not correspond to his real influence in the army, the source indicates.

Just like Motorola, Givi, according to RBC sources in the unrecognized republics, was not interested in politics and did not have his own people in the DPR parliament.

Russian trace version

“From a professional point of view, the murder of Tolstoy is the result of the disgusting work of the counterintelligence of the DPR,” — commented Strelkov on his VKontakte page. According to him, since the shot caught Givi in his office, it means that either the killers installed a surveillance camera inside the office or had agents in his close circle.

The preparedness of the killers is similar to the operation on Motorola, who died in a mined elevator in his own house. The plastite was fixed on the elevator cable, despite the fact that a watchman was sitting at the checkpoint.

According to Ukrainian political scientist Volodymyr Fesenko, “underground sabotage groups” associated with “Russian special services” could have made an attempt on Tolstoy’s life. “We have seen more than once a cleansing operation for internal reasons: for example, the liquidation of especially anarchist commanders Bednov and Dremov. version of the fight for - control financial flows also cannot be excluded. Perhaps, they simply remove the most odious figures. After negotiations with the West, Russia can also remove the leaders of the separatist republics Plotnitsky and Zakharchenko from their posts, ”he said in a comment to RBC.

Political scientist Vadim Karasev agrees with Fesenko. In his opinion, if his own people were involved in the death of the Tolstoy, this means that “there is a purge of military field commanders”, who are simply unnecessary in the course of a peaceful solution to the conflict, because they “just get in the way”.

Press Secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov rejected the version of Moscow's involvement in the assassination attempt. “We absolutely and quite unequivocally rule out any [involvement], deny accusations against the Russian side about possible involvement in this, this is out of the question,” the Kremlin spokesman said.

If the Ukrainian special services are behind the assassination attempt on Tolstoy, then this is a blow to the most active military leaders of the DPR, which in turn can lead to demoralization of a number of military units of the self-proclaimed republic, Karasev notes. “The death of Givi symbolizes a fork in the road: either the process will shift towards negotiations and real political regulation, or vice versa - towards a sharp military escalation, to an outbreak of military violence, an attempt to resolve the conflict not so much diplomatically as by military means,” Karasev summed up.

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A series of sweeps

The death of Mikhail Tolstykh was the second recent times high-profile terrorist attack in the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass. On February 4 this year, in Lugansk, the head of the People's Militia Department of the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR), Oleg Anashchenko, died as a result of a car explosion.

One of the most high-profile terrorist attacks was the death of another prominent military leader of the DPR, the commander of the Sparta battalion, Russian Arsen Pavlov, known under the call sign Motorola. He was also at his home on October 16, 2016. Officially, the leaders of the DPR accused Ukrainian saboteurs of attempting to assassinate Pavlov, and later reported on the capture of a sabotage group that allegedly claimed responsibility for the liquidation of Pavlov.

Assassination attempts on the leaders of the field commanders of the DPR and LPR began in the summer of 2015. In early January 2015, the former Minister of Defense of the LPR Alexander Bednov, known as Batman, was killed. The LPR authorities then accused Bednov and his people of robbery, kidnapping and torture.

In May 2015, the commander of the Prizrak battalion, Alexei Mozgovoy, was killed. Officially, the authorities of the LPR accused the Ukrainian special services of liquidating him. Shortly before his death, Mozgovoy allowed himself open criticism of the Donetsk militia, stating that fighting for the fighters of the LNR "pure business". At Mozgovoy's funeral, his comrades-in-arms told an RBC correspondent that they considered the leader of the LNR, Igor Plotnitsky, to be guilty of his death.

In December 2015, the Cossack chieftain Pavel Dremov, another field commander who criticized Igor Plotnitsky, was killed.

The killings of LPR and DPR supporters continued in 2016. In early October, in the village of Slavyanoserbsk, Lugansk region, Armen Bagiryan (Buggy) was shot dead with several associates. And on September 19, Alexander Zhilin, the leader of the pro-Russian organization Oplot, was killed in the Moscow region. AT Investigative Committee Russia was soon told that the main version of the murder was Zhilin's commercial activities.

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What did the shooters say about the death of the givi. Military pensioners for Russia and its armed forces. In Donetsk, terrorists blew up the commander of the "Somalia" unit

In Donetsk, terrorists blew up the commander of the "Somalia" unit

Fired from a flamethrower Givi's office